Taking Steps

Trouble ensues when you give an unrestrained forum to a crimefighting multiracial transsexual steampunk street medic who moonlights as a hereditary semiprofessional occultist and obsessive religion scholar. It's the bustle, baby.

Name: little light
Location: Portland, Oregon, United States

15 January 2007

the seam of skin and scales

I am not a woman trapped in a man's body. This body is no man's; it is mine, it is me, and there is no man in that equation. And I am not trapped in it. There are a million and one ways out of this body, and I have clung to it, tooth and claw, despite an endless line of people and institutions who would rather I vacate the premises, and have sometimes been willing to make me bleed to convince me they're right.

This body is mine, and I claim it and its bruises, and it is not a man's, and I am not trapped here. I have looked leaving my body in the eye and I have said, in the end, hell no. There is too much to do, too much to love, too many who need one more of us to say hell no and help them say the same.
You might not like it. It might be a wrongness to you.

I am done with traps. I am done with the philosophy of traps, and I am done with the feminism of who owns my body for what cause.
It is time for something that tells you that I am here for blood--my blood, the blood of my loved ones, the blood of the people who have battered themselves against my life and found me still here.


It is time for a feminism of the monstrous.


That is this body. That is this me. That is the voice that says get your names off of my parts and your hands off them too, that says stop colonizing my reality and telling me what I mean without listening to a word I say.

What I say may be in a language incomprehensible, but there is a time for that, and it is right now, because this is a monster's creed. It is for the cobbled-together, the sewn-up, the grafted-on. It is for the golden, the under-the-earth, the foreign, the travels-by-night; the filthy ship-sinking cave-dwelling bone-cracking gorgeousness that says hell no, I am not tidy. I am not easy. I am not what you suppose me to be and until you listen to my voice and look me in my eyes, I will cling fast to this life no matter how far you drive me, how deep, with how many torches and pitchforks, biting back the whole way down. I will not give you my suicide. I will not give you my surrender.

This is for the Lilim, because you forget that the next part after your co-opted icon parts ways with Adam and goes her own way is and she begat monsters, and she becomes terrifying. This is for the Gorgons and the vampires and the chimaeras, for Cybele and Baba Yaga, Hel and Ashtoreth, for Lamia and Scylla, for Kali and Kapo 'ula-kina'u. This is for all of them with teeth.

It is time to look the monstrous in the eye. It is time. It is time to say that we are beautiful in our fierceness, and that we are our own. We are not the rejected of what we can never be. We are what we were meant to be. We are not pieces of wholes thrown together incorrectly. We are not mistakes.
We are not inferior knockoffs of someone else. If our monstrousness is frightening, then it is time we bare our teeth and draw that fear close to us and stop being so afraid of our fearsomeness that we fear everyone and everything else right back.

I am throwing my head back, here, and saying it: no more being afraid. Hell no. My monstrousness is not a place of shame. It is a strength. It is the power to say I am mine, and I will tell you what I mean. Not you. I am not any thing trapped in anyone's body. I am tougher than that, and I have plenty of blood to spare in this body of mine, and plenty more miles to go before any of you can bring me to my knees, and I dare you to try.

I am choosing to stay here, and it is mine to choose. And if that means changing shape, if that means putting together the unexpected, that is any monster's ancient right. It is damn well traditional.
The only ones setting traps are the ones in our way.
There. There's my teeth. There's my cause.

Boo.
Hiss.
Keep kicking: a thousand, thousand slimy things lived on. And so. Did. I.

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122 Comments:

Anonymous Trin said...

This post is amazing.

Amazing, amazing, amazing.

15/1/07 10:29  
Anonymous queer dewd formerly known as ( ) said...

ditto what trin said LL.

15/1/07 10:46  
Blogger Rob said...

You have beautiful teeth, little light.

While I'm here, might I put in a word for Grendel?

15/1/07 11:30  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, absolutely, yes!

15/1/07 11:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, dude, the Lilim. Yes. Duh.

(Maybe I should change the 'Minotaur' tag to 'Lilim'.)

15/1/07 12:27  
Anonymous prosphoros said...

Wow. and, yeah, that: me, too!

15/1/07 12:28  
Anonymous Daisy said...

Wow. Just. Wow.

15/1/07 13:19  
Anonymous Holly said...

Incredible. Thank you. See you beyond the pale, sister.

15/1/07 14:36  
Anonymous euny said...

Strength, determination and pride. I love this post, you are amazing.

15/1/07 16:55  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nightbreed.

15/1/07 17:09  
Anonymous Erin M said...

Discovered you via the TF dust-up, and figured I'd delurk.

I'm going to print this out and keep it next to my bed. These are exactly the words I've been looking for. Fighting words, and powerful words. So, thanks.

15/1/07 17:33  
Blogger Nanette said...

Amazing, powerful, beautiful, determined, and just in time.

15/1/07 18:17  
Blogger StacyM said...

That f*ckin' rocked!

15/1/07 18:28  
Anonymous Joseph Kugelmass said...

This was wonderful. I like the implicit idea that we see ourselves as familiarly, comfortably embodied when we are in a state of surrender to norms, whereas the way we experience our body as a real phenomenon, authentically, is partly through details and distortions that scan as monstrous.

15/1/07 18:39  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lovely and astonishing. Bravo!

15/1/07 19:02  
Anonymous Lucy said...

Fantastic.

16/1/07 08:02  
Blogger belledame222 said...

Goddamit, I was gonna say 'amazing."

shit damn hellfire.

16/1/07 08:03  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I said GOD DAMN! That was amazing!

16/1/07 09:33  
Blogger antiprincess said...

goosebump-inducing.
and righteous.

16/1/07 09:38  
Anonymous lilcollegegirl said...

Holy shit. Thank you. *bookmarks*

16/1/07 10:23  
Anonymous uncomplicatedly said...

This is fantastic. The "monstrous feminine" is a concept as old as the hills, but not one that I have seen subject to the reclamation strategy before. A "feminism" that mobilized the mess of embodiedness against unrealistic normative forces need not belong to any particular gender, and therein lies the genius.

16/1/07 11:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is the. best. post. i've ever read.
thank you for sharing it.

16/1/07 12:26  
Blogger Renegade Evolution said...

WOnderful, and I am linking it TOO because it is that freakin' perfect.

16/1/07 13:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exquisite. Stunning. Ferocious.

You are all these things.

You own the terrible beauty of honorable scars and proudly claim them.

16/1/07 19:35  
Blogger Alex said...

Thank you for this. It is beautiful (in its own monstrous way).

I am saving it and keeping it to read always.

16/1/07 23:09  
Anonymous Andrea said...

WOW, LL!

*standing ovations and showering you with flowers*

17/1/07 03:03  
Blogger Dan L-K said...

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

17/1/07 08:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reminds me of Susan Stryker's "My Words to Victor Frankenstein above the Village of Chamounix: Performing Transgender Rage"

17/1/07 10:44  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I forgot to add that it reminded me of that in a very good way.

17/1/07 10:44  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, love it! :D

17/1/07 11:06  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beautiful :) I'm not supposed to be frequenting the blogosphere at the mo, but I had a sneaky peek at some blogs I knew wouldn't make me mad and came here via belledame. Reminded me why blogging is a positive thing :)

17/1/07 14:58  
Blogger DeniseUMLaw said...

LL, you are a poet with this post. And, like some poetry I didn't get all of it. There were references to things that I don't understand.

But, what I took away from this post is that you honor who you are -- just AS you are. No one can alter that reality for you. That is powerful mojo. I love that strength of identity.

You are gifted in so many ways; we are blessed that you share that gift with us.

17/1/07 15:55  
Anonymous Emily said...

Hi Little Light! I've been reading you since the IBTP blowup and I'm a fan of your writing.

I love this post so much, and the Latin student in me loves it, too. The words monster and monstrous come from the Latin word monstrare, which means to show or reveal, and that's what you're doing, revealing your body and beauty to everyone whether they can fucking deal with it or not. Etymology is uncanny sometimes, eh?

17/1/07 18:28  
Blogger little light said...

I am really glad you caught that, Emily. Truth be told, the next thing I was going to write in this series was on that etymological connection.
It's, frankly, neat.

17/1/07 18:31  
Blogger little light said...

I want to apologize to anyone who has been kind enough to link to this post. Another blogger has posted at her place encouraging her commenters to go to all of your places and inform you that I am, apparently, a plagiarist, because she has found a poem from the Sixties with some similar themes. Comments have already been left to that effect on blogs who linked to me.

I don't want discussion of this issue to mar what has gone on here, but I hope none of you are inconvenienced by this behavior, and thought you all deserved some fair warning.

17/1/07 18:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Monster," is an amazing poem written by Robin Morgan. The least you could do, little light, is give Robin Morgan credit when you plagerize her work and try to pass it off as your own.

The most you could do if you have no originality, is when you co-opt someone else's work, to try to not let it go so completely over your head that you're not even in the same ball park with what the author is getting at, let alone on the same page.

May I suggest "Invisible Woman?" It's a really short poem by Robin Morgan. Maybe you'll get that?

-- Luckynkl

17/1/07 20:19  
Anonymous Joseph Kugelmass said...

Hey, I haven't a clue whether this will do any good, or whether it will even be approved by the moderator, but I did post this over at Heart's site:

Heart, it's really not clear to me why you didn't structure your post this way: "Dear LittleLight, you may not be aware that in the 60s Robin Morgan was making a similar point as you...it's fantastic to see how certain liberatory revisions of 'body image,' including monstrosity, keep coming up when we try to think our bodies through in a fashion beyond oppression."

It's a great thing to share your knowledge, and to create connections between old feminisms and new. It's not such a great thing to immediately accuse LittleLight of plagiarism, in a manner that is likely to start another blog war and which creates divides when there could have been bridges.

I'm a teacher, and I have to be alert to plagiarism. This is convergence, not plagiarism; to be honest, "monster" remains a fairly empty category in Morgan's poem, whereas LittleLight fills it brimful with a wealth of mythological references. No philosopher is the first to use the word "truth," no poet the first to write about "beauty," and nobody alive can have read everything that pertains to their writing. A query is a better starting place than an accusation. That's not because it's better to be weak. It's because it's better to be completely right than half-right.

17/1/07 20:42  
Anonymous Trin said...

They can't comment to me unless they've got LJs. I'm sure some do, but if they're foolish enough to poke their heads in that's what the Admin Console and a raging case of Fuck Off Assholes is for.

17/1/07 21:02  
Anonymous Trin said...

joseph kugelmass:

Yes. I'm a TA myself -- plagiarism means something pretty damn specific: using another's words as your own. It can include paraphrases, yes, but paraphrases are near-exact as well.

Similar themes and imagery do not plagiarism make. This whole thing is laughable, as is the mobilizing to trash LL.

Why can't these feminists mobilize against rape, against violence, against racism, against ableism, against sexism, against -- YES -- transphobia?

It's always safest to attack our sisters, isn't it?

17/1/07 21:06  
Anonymous Trin said...

The sad, patheitc thing is I was just reading a post over at kactus' where Heart was all about "Yeah, it doesn't matter who we are or how we differ from other feminists, we have to band together." and in that post of kactus' she mentioned some things that I was sure a Heart-style radfem would hate. It made me wonder if maybe there was some glimmer of the notion of real sisterhood deep inside that racist, vindictive, cruel person. Apparently not.

17/1/07 21:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a professor who has seen plenty of cases of actual plagiarism, I agree totally with what Joseph Kugelmass said. Even if you had read the Morgan piece and decided to pick up on the monster idea, your piece would still not be plagiarism for all of the reasons he states.

And I'll add - I doubt your accuser really thinks it is. This is about something else. How dare your feminism not be HER feminism, right?

She might as well accuse Morgan of plagiarizing Mary Shelley.

It's a great piece, by the way.

17/1/07 21:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People will tend to mobilise in response to what makes them feel threatened and unsafe.

It's been clear for some time that Heart and her ilk are extremely threatened by the idea that a transwoman could have any sense of personal power or strength; that Little Light is willing to actually be publically herself is terrifying.

I wrote, a long time ago, in another locale, that it's terrifying to stand up and be beautiful. It's hard to find the guts to actually do it, to step out and thunder and say "I AM." Too much aphorism about the tall poppy, too much memory of the junior high school lunchroom -- I, at least, learned a bit about how to be grey and innocuous and pretend that I didn't have teeth because I was tired of fighting. There are times I think that coddles the people who are threatened by those-like-me, lets them live in the comfortable illusion that they're safe from the monster under the bed.

Or in the closet. Another traditional place for monsters.

17/1/07 21:17  
Blogger belledame222 said...

omg! it's Lucky! Fancy seeing you here! at a transwoman's blog! you know, the people you said all belonged in straightjackets and could never ever be women and can't pollute your precious bodily fluids by zomg sharing a public toilet? Fuck off and die, 'k shitbag?

17/1/07 21:18  
Blogger belledame222 said...

oh yeah, and lucky? wrt the gay marriage thing? my friends who have to either split up or basically go into exile on account of one of them is from another country? send you an extra extended middle finger.

17/1/07 21:20  
Blogger belledame222 said...

And I'll add - I doubt your accuser really thinks it is. This is about something else. How dare your feminism not be HER feminism, right?

oh yeah, it's something else all right--that, and, but, particularly: how dare she lay claim to being a woman. how dare she lay claim to being oppressed. especially if that has Implications for the despicable actions of Heart and lucky and all the rest. which it does. how's it feel, baby? the guilt? no, not you, right? never you. no one's EVER suffered like you've suffered. no room for anyone else. FUCK no.

17/1/07 21:23  
Anonymous Holly said...

I think they're more used to trans women either as easy targets to point at and say "oh my god! how unfeminist!" or as hapless sycophants in search of approval from some sort of orthodox feminism, looking for a pat on the head that will earn them some shred of "OK you're something sort of like a woman maybe" that's tokenizing at best. The spectre of a trans woman rising up and saying "I don't give a fuck, this is my feminism" and saying it in a powerful, vibrant voice? Well of course it won't do. Of course it must have been copied from someone else. Of course anything that looks, smells, sounds like feminist thought must have been co-opted, because it can't have been real thoughts, experiences, feelings, from inside a trans woman's life? That would start to pull at that little thread, at the corner of the sweater...

17/1/07 21:31  
Blogger belledame222 said...

yup. "what? it spoke? that, that's not supposed to happen."

goes with her M.O. LL addressed her directly, repeatedly, politely, at bfp's, when she was still being all Saruman with bfp, and Heart never did respond to many if not all of her questions; when it became clear that neither bfp nor most of the rest of us were having any (but were still quite civil; bfp's a tough moderator), she gathered up her skirts about her and swept off back to her place. there to complain that she'd been the Only One! to represent her POV at bfp's spot, which, just slap it on the list of massive injustices; then proceeds to moderate the fuck out of a positively Foxesque "fair and balanced" conversation. kh posted a compare n contrast of her original post with Heart's editing; it looked like it had been eaten by mice. and i gather a number didn't make it through at all. dear lucky was not one of them, so i understand.

17/1/07 21:52  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of amazing, I found this piece of absurdity particularly astounding.

Dw3t-Hthr said...

It's been clear for some time that Heart and her ilk are extremely threatened by the idea that a transwoman could have any sense of personal power or strength; that Little Light is willing to actually be publically herself is terrifying.

Dw3t-Hthr, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Nobody I know feels threatened by a transwoman merely having some sense of personal power or strength. But then, people who profess to know what others must be thinking rarely have a clue.

Aletha

17/1/07 22:03  
Blogger belledame222 said...

Thanks for stopping by and sharing!

17/1/07 22:10  
Anonymous Holly said...

That's very ironic given the number of professed feminists around blogland recently who have been falling over themselves insisting what trans people must think, believe, what ideas we must inherently subscribe to, what our political stances must be...

17/1/07 22:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dw3t-Hthr, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Nobody I know feels threatened by a transwoman merely having some sense of personal power or strength. But then, people who profess to know what others must be thinking rarely have a clue.

Aletha


I think the fear is more that transitioning in one's own body is somehow an encroachment on biological women's bodies. If a biological man can say he's a woman, then when I, biological woman, say I'm a woman, the word loses its meaning, the sky falls down, yadda yadda. (Actually, I do think it's fair to claim that biological women and biological men have different experiences, but then, biological women have lots of different experiences, as well. I can't think of a single thing I do or experience as a woman that is common to *every* other woman on the planet, except the things that are also common to every human on the planet. Even the most surprising things - I met a biological, cissexual, non-trans woman recently who had no vagina. So there you go. All preconceived notions, right out the window.)

I always have to wonder what people who are so worried about the attack of the transpeople are doing with their time when they're not trying to keep out the transfolk. I mean - you know, it's not an issue that I really see coming up as a threat to biological women anywhere on the feminist frontlines. Transgender people are far more likely to be the victims of rape, bashing, assualt, and murder than to perpetrate it. I don't see an old transpeople's network collaborating to keep women making $.70 on the dollar, or to cut social service programs and the minimum wage. Transfolk are not mining uranium on Native land and testing Quinacrine on Native women. They're not banding together to throw men and women of color into prison in hugely disproportionate numbers.

(You know, I'm sure there are *some* transgendered people who are doing these things, but I think y'all take my point.)

So when we have these very real threats to deal with...well, gosh, I'm so glad that there are biological women who are fighting for what's really important. Because excluding others so that I can have the right to name myself the way I want to is just so much more central to feminism than is fighting poverty, racism, etc.

*Sigh.* And I promised myself I wasn't going to get bitchy. I really do feel bad about that, but not quite bad enough not to post this.

17/1/07 22:49  
Anonymous Professor Zero said...

It's not plagiarism.

17/1/07 23:59  
Blogger Veronica said...

I linked to this, but I don't have trackbacking. So... here.

18/1/07 00:45  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My monstrousness is not a place of shame. It is a strength."

Oh HELL yeah!
Clapping and clapping and clapping and ...

18/1/07 01:25  
Blogger Chris Clarke said...

Nobody I know feels threatened by a transwoman merely having some sense of personal power or strength. But then, people who profess to know what others must be thinking rarely have a clue.

Anyone else here laughing at the juxtaposition of those two sentences?

18/1/07 09:06  
Blogger belledame222 said...

there is no irony deficiency in this world, i'll say that much.

18/1/07 09:32  
Blogger belledame222 said...

but then, biological women have lots of different experiences, as well. I can't think of a single thing I do or experience as a woman that is common to *every* other woman on the planet, except the things that are also common to every human on the planet.


Even the most surprising things - I met a biological, cissexual, non-trans woman recently who had no vagina. So there you go. All preconceived notions, right out the window.

*nod* yup. i knew someone like that, too. some condition with an incredibly long and convoluted name; born without a uterus or a vagina. (ovaries, yes). or, rather; she had one created for her, a vagina that is, when she hit puberty, without her consent or even being informed that that was what was happening to her. ain't it grand?

i was thinking about her the other day, what with the whole new uterus transplant business (there's another one that ought to have Heart foaming at the mouth. well except also apparently a lot of other people will be, rightfully as well; girlistic was writin' about how sloppy the "testing" procedure has been thus far, and the spavined thinking behind that). but anyway, assuming it does work out okay in the end, i wonder if this is something she'd want to go for: she desperately wanted to have children, i know.

18/1/07 09:44  
Blogger belledame222 said...

oops, had meant to respond to this bit first, cut myself off:

but then, biological women have lots of different experiences, as well. I can't think of a single thing I do or experience as a woman that is common to *every* other woman on the planet, except the things that are also common to every human on the planet.

well, see, i think that's what's -really- at the (ahem) heart of this. Because that's been the problem with ehm Certain People all along. i have argued this very point with Heart herself, point o'fact, in relation to something having nothing to do with trans issue ("Heart, with all due respect, you are not Every Woman," essentially. the flowery response to that--i -was- being polite, then--i felt, was rather surreal, at best).

there are names for this sort of mmm thinking? relating? Call it ideology if you like, but it goes deeper than any one political faction.

"high demand groups"

OCTRINE OVER PERSON - Doctrine supersedes human experience

The ideological myth merges with their "truth" and the resulting
deduction can be so overpowering and coercive that is simply replaces
reality. Consequently past events can be altered, rewritten or even
ignored to make them consistent with the current reality. This alteration is especially lethal when the distortions are imposed on the individual's memory.


...The underlying assumption is that the doctrine - including it
mythological elements - is ultimately more valid, true and real than is any aspect of actual human character or human experience. The individual under such pressure is propelled into an intense conflict with his own sense of integrity, a struggle which take place in relation to polarised feelings if sincerity and insincerity...

18/1/07 09:58  
Blogger piny said...

Anyone else here laughing at the juxtaposition of those two sentences?

Laughing, sneering, whatever. I also find it kinda funny that, "Nuh-uh!" is considered a good rebuttal to an analysis of Heart et alia's behavior. You don't crack down on the plagiarism-that-isn't unless you're overanxious about the riff raff.

18/1/07 11:23  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cookie Monster sad.

18/1/07 17:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sigh. I had my own sense of the irony of my post, but expected it to be misconstrued in the manner it has been taken. Of course, nobody has yet bothered to address my point, which was to object to this particularly absurd and insulting presumption:

"It's been clear for some time that Heart and her ilk are extremely threatened by the idea that a transwoman could have any sense of personal power or strength..."

In that context, I think my ironic juxtaposition is appropriate. I also think disagreeing with the way a transwoman self-defines does not remotely equate to "falling over themselves insisting what trans people must think, believe, what ideas we must inherently subscribe to, what our political stances must be..." That is a straw man if I ever saw one. Some transwomen claim to be identical to women, while others acknowledge there is a distinction. Some women think that distinction has some meaning and importance. For some reason, that seems to really bother some transwomen, so much so that they throw around all sorts of presumptuous insinuations with no basis in fact. Oh those transphobic doctrinaire cruel vindictive radical feminists!

I should say plain(s)feminist did obliquely address my point by attempting to explain what the fear was really all about. Not that I agree with that explanation either, but at least it had something to do with my point!

Aletha

18/1/07 22:57  
Blogger belledame222 said...

Hey Aletha? The thing is? It ain't about you. Or radical feminism. She's talking about her life; you really need to get over yourself(ves). Y'all don't get the patent on suffering, or feminism, or even womanhood. And: maybe, since you're ON HER BLOG, you might consider trying to understand -her- before demanding we get -your- deal.

p.s. can you play "Melancholy Baby," by any chance?

18/1/07 23:10  
Anonymous Holly said...

I also think disagreeing with the way a transwoman self-defines does not remotely equate to "falling over themselves insisting what trans people must think, believe, what ideas we must inherently subscribe to, what our political stances must be..." That is a straw man if I ever saw one.

(I wrote the part in quotation marks.) Yeah, that totally would be a straw man, if that's what I was talking about at all. It's not; I was referring to a whole set of discussions on other blogs, particularly the long thread on Amp's blog, in which a few people kept insisting on much more elaborate theories about what trans people "must" believe. Not anything that had to do with self-defining as "woman" or "just like every other woman" or anything like that. Some of those people doing that were trans themselves! So among other things, your rebuttal is pointed off in the wrong direction.

For the record, I think women have a lot of different experiences, and trans women have different kinds of experiences than other women. But all of this can still be part and parcel of "the many varied experiences of women" that connect us through difference and intersection. And the sky really won't fall down and the world won't fall apart and the political project will not automatically splinter into uselessness, either.

18/1/07 23:22  
Blogger belledame222 said...

"I'm not a homophobe, so STOP SAYING THAT. I just don't have to approve of your CHOICES, is all; god, some of us are just tired of all your FLAUNTING and PARADES and DEMANDS for SPECIAL RIGHTS. p.s. I'm in UR Space, talking up some shite! Witness how I have been Misunderstood! Everybody, look at me! Loooook at meeeeeeeeeeeee"

19/1/07 00:13  
Blogger belledame222 said...

Some women think that distinction has some meaning and importance.

And some women think their bloodline makes them a special snowflake, and they really shouldn't have to associate with Those People, not that they have anything against them or anything, why can't They keep to Their own and find their own space?

And some women think the stars on their bellies make them superior to the ones without ones upon thars. (more oppressed. six of one).

And some women think you need to go and boil your head.

"For some reason;" yeah, i can't imagine what that would be.

say, I don't really care for you calling yourself "Aletha;" I find that offensive, because I have a friend named Aletha and I really don't care to think of you in conjunction with her. so I'm just going to call you "Binky," 'k?

19/1/07 00:20  
Blogger belledame222 said...

and besides, she was called "Aletha" way before you; I'm fairly certain she invented the name; and here you come along with your inferior imitation and ruining it for all real Alethas everywhere. Why'd you have to go and spoil it all, Binky, why?

19/1/07 00:22  
Blogger little light said...

Easy, now, Belle. I'm not about to go taking anyone's name; we ought to be better than that.

Aletha, the funny thing is, I never made any statements here about radical feminists. I didn't mention them or critique them. I didn't say anything about anyone else's gender or, for that matter, even say in this piece that I'm a woman. I have never claimed to be identical to other women of any sort or to have had different experiences than my own. And yet, at Heart's place, there's a stack of comments about how I'm trying to say I'm better than other women, or I'm attacking radical feminists, etc.

And here you are, talking about the relative validity of transgender self-definition--I thought the issue was plagiarism? Or was it appropriation?
Because I'm being told that I'm taking things that aren't mine. Like my experiences? Like the things that have happened in my life that I was actually talking about here? Like being Othered and called monstrous, which I brought up because that is directed at me and needed addressing and reclaiming? Like Babylonian mythology?

So someone else, in another struggle, was called the same names I was. And maybe she, looking at some of the same literature and mythologies I concerned myself with, here, came to believe it was better to reclaim those epithets and write about it.
That's no A-HA moment. I didn't take anything from her. Either I'm being blamed for stealing her ideas--which I can't have, having never come into contact with them before--or I'm being blamed for being ignorant of them, because I have a duty to read everything ever written about monsters, a symbol that matters to me because of my own studies and life experiences that takes up a huge chunk of human literature on the whole.

But it's not really about supposed plagiarism, is it? It's that the person I am accused of paralleling, I am now told, would disapprove of my own personal project of self-acceptance and my own politics besides. I'm "taking what doesn't belong to me"--that is, though I didn't claim it directly here, womanhood. The notion of being stepped on by a hostile system. Of being defined by other people instead of myself.
The point is getting me to bow and scrape and beg to be allowed my own liberation from someone who doesn't think I should have it, and somehow admit that all of my work really belongs to a woman whiter, older, and more well-off than me, because my pretty little brown head couldn't have come up with anything from my own knowledge, education, and history.
The point is I should have to read everything written by people who want to keep kicking, and then beg them to be allowed to use nouns they're willing to spare for my own experiences, because I don't deserve better.

I'm sorry; I have my influences, and they're not Robin Morgan, and they're not any radical feminist writers that I know of. I'm not stealing their work; their work is mostly off my radar. I came to these words organically, through discussing disability-advocacy solidarity, my dissatisfaction with aspects of cyborg feminism, my own religious practice, the stories and literature I was raised on, postcolonial theory, mestiza theory, and writers like Edward Said, Fatima Mernissi, Gloria Anzaldua, Donna Penn, Salman Rushdie, Farid Esack, Mary Shelley, and, well, my commenters, whose discussion helped me get here. I'm proud of my influences, and have never hidden them. They are not radical feminists' words. They are mine, for better or worse.

This was a personal piece. It was not about you. It was not about Heart. It was not about radical feminism. It was not about what womanhood is or who owns it. You people came in here--or didn't, and fired shots from afar, mostly--and made it about you and yours, and scoring points in your longstanding internecine battle of theory, which looks an awful lot like appropriation to me. It's not about you and yours. It's about the cops who sexually assaulted my friend, about the kids who gang-beat me with hockey sticks, about my colonized ancestors being exploited and renamed, and about me. Owning myself and my history and all my parts. And not backing down.

19/1/07 00:51  
Anonymous Holly said...

It wasn't that you had the audacity to use the word "monster" in your writing. As usual, it was that you had the audacity to use the word "feminist." You're allowed to be one, but not the other... fancy that!

19/1/07 05:46  
Blogger belledame222 said...

also: "woman." as opposed to "transwoman." Aletha/Binky thinks there is an important distinction to be made, see.

19/1/07 06:23  
Anonymous Holly said...

Oh geez, how could I have forgetten that one? The oldest one, tried and true. How dare you call yourself a woman?

19/1/07 06:52  
Blogger Dan L-K said...

A tangent, but: Y'all realize, right, that you cannot actually steal an idea? (In the literary sense, that is.) Ideas - themes, motifs, archetypes, images - are not intellectual property in any meaningful sense at all.

Only the words matter. That's why this isn't even in the same postal district as "plagiarism," except in the fevered imaginations of people who think Star Wars and Star Trek are the same thing because they're both set in space.

19/1/07 06:57  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aletha,
Yes, I do understand why some feminsists perceive trans as a threat, and while I got snarky in my post, I didn't intend to entirely dismiss this. Obviously, from the rest of my post, I personally do not see a threat.

However. You might be interested in Jennifer Finney Boylan's book, She's Not There: A Life in Two Genders. What Boylan does for the first time that I've seen in writing by MTFs, is to address some of the differences between born women and transwomen. In particular, she talks about the difference between adolescences and womanhood. Boylan says that many transwomen see themselves as girls rather than women, and that they are focused on the trappings of femininity - and that Boylan, herself, can understand why this pisses off women, esp. those who consciously reject these trappings as the essence of womanhood.

Hoping I'm not sounding patronizing here - there is a theoretical point to be made by saying that born women have a different experience than do transwomen. I think that's fair to say. But then, to move from that to Janice Raymond's assertion that transwomen are coopting women's bodies and that this is just another way that men are appropriating women - which, of course, was Heart's whole point in her post - *that* is tarring a whole diverse group of people with the same brush, and that is bigotry.

Anyway, I think that an analysis like Boylan's goes a long way toward addressing some of the problem. Surely Boylan isn't the only transperson to do this, but she's the first popular writer I've seen do so.

I also think Emi Koyama has good things to say about all of this - her website is www.eminism.org.

Further, identity politics have pretty much proven to be a bad way to keep a movement going - they're great for theorizing, bad for action. (I say this as someone who, ironically, can't get an article published on bisexuality b/c the way I use it in the piece is being dismissed as "too identity politics" - this is ironic as I've critiqued identity politics in other writing.) Some feminist theorists, like Kristin Esterberg, suggest that we have to focus instead on feminist projects - where can we form alliances, for example? Surely, transwomen and biological women can form alliances around domestic violence, rape, and other issues for women. How we identify ourselves should be secondary to these efforts. But we won't have these efforts if we can't first agree to give each other room and respect, and reaching way back, that does mean moderating hate speech on blog comments (which, for the record, I see that IBTP did, once she'd read the comments in question, and quite firmly). It also means making an honest effort to understand the other person/position and not dismissing them.

You could argue, as some have on Heart's blog, that radical feminists have been dismissed in this discussion. First, what Heart is talking about, the more that I read her, is cultural feminism, not radical feminism. She seems to believe (for the most part) that it isn't patriarchy that's the problem, but men. And that women and men are essentially different (rad fems don't believe this - rad fems believe that gender is a social construction that comes from the patriarchy and that there is no difference btw women and men except that women get the shaft under patriarchy). And second, on the issue of transgender, the rad fem "camp" has often shown a complete unwillingness to education itself by reading trans writings, knowing trans people, or even engaging in thoughtful dialogue with the transfolks who've been struggling to reach out and have a discussion.

This is what I've seen over the past several weeks mostly as a new observer to all of this. Sadly, I've seen this occur again and again and again in many different arenas.

I will say this, however - I'm not completely trashing identity politics. And I'm not saying that rad fem or cult fem are awful and need to be thrown out. But I do think that all of us need to focus on dialogue and coalition and, of course, respect, which comes from understanding and yes, trusting each other.

And Aletha, I apologize for being snarky with you. I don't know you, and I was taking out my frustrations with this whole thing on you.

19/1/07 07:25  
Anonymous Holly said...

Quite honestly, I feel like pretty much any trans person who takes part in these discussions is either an emotional masochist or trying to put themselves out there in order to build bridges of some sort. Or possibly engaged in some personal soul-searching they need. But whatever the case, trans people get dirt clods flung at us in these discussions. We're not just called names or scolded for daring to be on this side or that side of a bounadary; we're held to double-binding standards, told what we think, rolled over by objectifying theories from the medical establishment or from people who never bothered to try and talk to us.

Some people make fun of the tendency to want to protect yourself and move away from these conversations by teasing about "hurt feelings." Well yeah, hurt feelings matter too. And they're inevitable for any trans person who steps into these kind of turf-war ideological warzones. At least, it feels very much like a warzone to us, since our lives are being used as ammo.

That isn't to say that there aren't trans people who show up and say some very dunderheaded things -- essentialist, solipsistic, reifying gender standards and stereotypes that are obviously bogus to everyone else. There's little enough "trans community" where people can learn and grow, and in these discussions people get slapped around hard, not taught.

One last thing:

Hoping I'm not sounding patronizing here - there is a theoretical point to be made by saying that born women have a different experience than do transwomen. I think that's fair to say.

I don't think it's just fair, or theoretical. It's an absolute disservice to and erasure of trans women to insist that there are no differences in experience. It would certainly erase (in the bad way) a lot of bullshit that has happened to me if differences in experience were ignored. But again, I don't see that many trans people insisting on that, at least not around these parts. On the other hand, it would also erase huge chunks of my life and experience if you insisted that I'm not a woman and haven't been *directly* targeted by sexism, violence against women, and patriarchal oppression. Trans women are a type of women with particular experiences. That's all that really needs to be said, but somehow our presence inside the oh-so-important boundaries makes the sky fall down and the political endeavors fail.

19/1/07 07:53  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope I'm welcome to post here, little light.

Anyway, what you wrote is extremely powerful; fortunately it is powerful enough to not get buried under the bizarre fantasies that you are somehow appropriating, eh, something (talk about essentialist thinking!)

As far as I know, only Christ claimed to be the Word. /irony

- Q Grrl

19/1/07 08:06  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know, Holly - that is a damn good point.

So much of the fear of trans from feminist circles is about having their experiences erased. And I can understand the fear (of being erased) because being erased is a terrible thing. But this focus on biology isn't thought through - it merely positions women's oppression as unique and ignores the ways in which transpeople actually feel the worst of that oppression.

I wonder sometimes if those who are so focused on biology have ever considered that transgendered people are far more likely to be raped and assualted and murdered precisely for being transgendered than are biological women. And aren't rape, assault, and murder the very tools that they argue are used by the patriarchy against women?

Anyway - I've gotten away from your point here and into something else, so I'll close.

19/1/07 08:47  
Anonymous Holly said...

It's not always about biology, though. A lot of accusations get tossed around about biological essentalism, on either "side," but there are other kinds of essentialism that people engage in which are just as flawed, and more subtle.

For instance, I think someone referred to it as "cultural essentialism" -- the idea that while women may not be defined by biology, the essence of "woman" is forged in the crucible of being socialized in a patriarchal system as a woman. This can never change, and that anyone who was not a